Eh I guess
I mean it’s not really doll related but I still think that kids really shouldn’t be anything over chubby
Like I’ve seen kids overfed to the point they get outta breath playing
A bit of fat is healthy but full on obesity? Nah that really should be addressed as soon as possible
Why the sudden shift in the conversation? What does that have to do with a chubby doll being a good idea? I’m confused now and a bit… well, let’s just say I STRONGLY disagree with that assessment.
Oh sorry but like, what I’m saying is yeah a kinda chubby doll would fantastic
But I wouldn’t agree with a full on fat/obese doll on health grounds
Hello, Local athletic fatty here and I have a few things to say….first off pgirl1986 has the patience of a saint for not telling you to screw off immediately, Because you just spouted so much undereducated crap I think my IQ dropped a few points.
This is me. More than just a little chubby, But also at the peak of my physical fitness. Skating hardcore endurance training 12 hours a week for 3 years.
I am not an exception to the rule that you can be fat and healthy. I think we can all agree Olympians are the shining beacon of what the human body can do when it’s been trained to be perfect in it’s craft, well this news might be shocking to you but there are fat Olympians who bring home medals. their are bodies designed to perform to the best of their abilities. and there are so many more of them.
so kindly take your outdated BS about obesity being instantly unfit or unhealthy elsewhere.
all girls should be able to feel fashionable, powerful and fabulous no matter what size they are, it breaks my heart hearing about these young ladies who resort to crash diets, food restriction or even consider dangerous surgery to be the size society tells them they need to be to get respect. and yaknow what? even IF someone isn’t athletic and they’re fat they still deserve the respect and kindness that every basic human being gets, you don’t get to just choose if someone deserves respect based on how healthy they are, this demonizes the sickly.
I would not have half as many problems I had as a teenager if I grew up seeing that plus size people do exist and they aren’t just the butt of some cruel joke. If Barbie had a big friend who was with her and had dolls that showed her being a teacher or a doctor or an astronaut or whatever the hell Barbie has been I would have seen girls who look like me doing all these extraordinary things and I wouldn’t have felt so alone and I am not the only one.
The Monster High fandom doesn’t just want a plus size doll. We need her.
Reblogging because Spooky-pens is amazing.
A few of my thoughts:
I am also a fat girl. I have been to the doctor all my life trying to figure out what was “wrong” with me. (Nothing by the way..) and the Doctors all say the same thing. “Well, you are perfectly healthy… except you are obese.”
I did sports all the time as a kid and I’m still a moderately active adult. (I want to be more active but ya know.. work.)
It took me years to finally get comfortable with my body and get off the media powered diet machine. It would have been nice as a kid to see fat people, especially women, be treated with respect and just being PEOPLE and not just one long horrible fat joke.
So yeah, just gotta say it real loud… BEING FAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE UNHEALTHY. I suggest people out there start reading up on some medical studies (not done by weight loss companies) Check out Dances With Fat Blog. She is full of awesome information
I also support getting a few plus sized girls in the line. Perhaps Minnie Taur, and one of Grimmily. I know I’ll buy the heck out of Manny! I get that MH is a fashion doll line but when the more people cry out “But it’s a fashion line! The cost!!” Well, Mattel has 3 different female heights/ body types already in the line.. will one more really bankrupt them?
I don’t think it’s possible to bankrupt Mattel.
The thing is, it’s not a production cost issue AT ALL….the average MH doll probably costs Mattel $2 to produce. I don’t know much about business but that is one hell of a mark up.
Mattel releases deluxe packs all the time. Bloodgood and Nightmare cost $50 and she was impossible to find originally, now that her novelty has worn of she is just now beginning to shelf warm, I’m sure her rein is coming to an end. But She was recently on sale for $20 and I’m sure Mattel still made a profit off her including all that plastic it must have taken to make nightmare.
They just released the freaky fusion line and it contains a Centaur girl. a girl with a horse body, once again that is a lot of plastic. She will probably be the same price as all the other deluxe dolls ( $25?) so clearly production cost is not factored into the equation too much when it comes to making bigger meatier dolls so I fail to see why this same logic can’t be applied to a plus sized doll body. Sweet Screams Frankie and Draculaura are tricked out to the gills with extra plastic accessories yet their price remains the same as the rest.
I really wish people would stop using production costs to justify fatphobia. I’ve had enough of it with people and how plus size clothing for ladies is always more money the higher up in size you go “to justify use of the extra fabric” AND YET maternity clothing prices remain unaffected, why is this? both use extra fabric. I have to deal with this toxic bullshite enough when I’m shopping for clothing so I will not stand for it in when it comes to my toys.
A bigger doll for Monster High would not shelf warm, I’m willing to bet my entire collection on it. People would snap up 2 or 3 regardless of what monster she was for customs, for the novelty, it would pull IN extra collectors who want diversity in their collection! I know plus size dolls are a draw to me (my big ladies collection currently consists of 2 ) people are crying out for change and unless we hen peck Mattel until they’re bloody they won’t do it because they are afraid.
and honestly? I can’t blame them they’re trying to break the mold and they are met with nothing but resistance. they’ve been accused of everything from training young girls to be hookers to being members of the Illuminati. even if they made the character a gold metal athlete, scholar, millionairess who volunteers at soup kitchens and rebuilds houses for displaced disaster victims in her spare time the general public would STILL turn their noses up to a plus size doll because fatness seems to be the worst possible thing any person can be. worse than petty, worse than evil, worse than jealous, vindictive.
and that is truly the saddest thing I can think of.
I’m with you on the fatphobia. ::solemn high five::
As far as the “It cost to much!” argument. I’ve read that to make a new body type/ doll requires them to pay someone to design the doll, sculpt the original, make the new molds and then there is the cost of actually making the doll. So I understand that there is some decent cost going into new characters/mold. (Not as much as they’d like your to believe.)
So yes Mattel playing it safe with new body types is something I understand because they are a toy company and they want to make money. But again, we have 3 different female body types already and a few have custom molds for scales, tattoos, bones! Mattel seems to like trying new things.. at least to me it seem likes they do.
Another argument is that if you make a plus size doll that she can’t wear other girls clothes and vise versa. Sorry guys but I already have problems switching clothes between the doll sizes as is.. and that doesn’t stop me from buying them. Give that plus size doll a We <3 Fashion pack, she’ll be fine.
Mattel clearly listens to it’s fanbase and I’ll keep shouting for a plus size doll until the cows come home… ::looks in Garrett Sanders direction::
Or I guess when people stop liking MH and the line gets canceled. (Sad thougths.)